Quoting percentages for chances of success
Quote from barbapappa on February 24, 2019, 2:36 amI have here a client who wants me to give him an idea about the chances of success in trademark registration proceedings (the Subject Mark).
It is about overcoming a citation objection of two earlier trademarks (Cited Marks) in Singapore. One option is to file written arguments to contest the Examiner’s findings. We may attempt to do so by:
(a) Distinguishing the Subject Mark from the Cited Marks based on visual differences, i.e. Subject Mark contains word stylization differences and presence of different devices which makes it distinguishable from the Cited Marks, AND/OR
(b) distinguishing the Subject Mark from the Cited Marks based on conceptual differences, i.e. Subject Mark’s emphasis appears to be on the last 2 letters, and the same emphasis is not found in the Cited Marks, AND/OR
(c) Distinguishing the Subject Mark from the Cited Marks based on the differences in the nature of the Applicant’s business and the Cited Marks proprietor’s business. We can explain that the Applicant’s scope of business is an entirely different field from the Cited Marks proprietors. The first cited mark appears to pertain to the education field, and second cited mark appears to pertain to the organization of trade fairs. There however appears to be a greater overlap in one class of services for the second cited mark, hence this argument may not be as convincing.The chances of successfully overcoming the Examiner’s objection based on this are not optimistic.
I would like to say that the chances to be successful are estimated to be at about 20%.
Any comments?
I have here a client who wants me to give him an idea about the chances of success in trademark registration proceedings (the Subject Mark).
It is about overcoming a citation objection of two earlier trademarks (Cited Marks) in Singapore. One option is to file written arguments to contest the Examiner’s findings. We may attempt to do so by:
(a) Distinguishing the Subject Mark from the Cited Marks based on visual differences, i.e. Subject Mark contains word stylization differences and presence of different devices which makes it distinguishable from the Cited Marks, AND/OR
(b) distinguishing the Subject Mark from the Cited Marks based on conceptual differences, i.e. Subject Mark’s emphasis appears to be on the last 2 letters, and the same emphasis is not found in the Cited Marks, AND/OR
(c) Distinguishing the Subject Mark from the Cited Marks based on the differences in the nature of the Applicant’s business and the Cited Marks proprietor’s business. We can explain that the Applicant’s scope of business is an entirely different field from the Cited Marks proprietors. The first cited mark appears to pertain to the education field, and second cited mark appears to pertain to the organization of trade fairs. There however appears to be a greater overlap in one class of services for the second cited mark, hence this argument may not be as convincing.
The chances of successfully overcoming the Examiner’s objection based on this are not optimistic.
I would like to say that the chances to be successful are estimated to be at about 20%.
Any comments?
Quote from Martin Schweiger on February 24, 2019, 2:41 amOn what basis do you say "20%"? Why is it 20% and not 30% or 10%?
Quote from Impostor_syndrome on February 24, 2019, 2:49 amQuote from Martin Schweiger on February 24, 2019, 2:41 amOn what basis do you say "20%"? Why is it 20% and not 30% or 10%?
I think it all boils down to style. To begin with, "chances of success" are not really quantifiable - most of the time we are trying to read tea leaves when giving an estimation of "chances of success".
While it is possible to give "chances of success" in terms of "high/lowlow" or "good/bad", I have had clients who insist on a numerical value. I do not know why they rather have it presented that way but perhaps "high/low" or "good/bad" is just not relatable to them.
In such cases, I would give give them a numerical value for "high" or "low". If I am very confident of overcoming the objection, maybe 80%. If I think chances are slim, 20%. It does not really matter what the number I give is, as long as it is a representation of whether I think chances are good or not.
Quote from Martin Schweiger on February 24, 2019, 2:39 pmOne acceptable way would be to say "of about 50 similar cases over the past two years, only about 10 have been successful and lead to a registration of the mark. Not many, but still there are some chances to succeed."