Quote from barbapappa on December 31, 2019, 1:54 am

I deeply regret the unpoliteness of this note. Your client is not a member of the group and therefore has not been given the right to reply. What would you say if he simply stated he did not pay you because the quality of the services rendered was not what he expected. Next time you want to warn the group about your problems with a client, simply say so in plain words, not cowardly disguise it in a question. Also I strongly suggest we do not change the group into a prosecution/collecting agency.

Quote from Martin Schweiger on December 31, 2019, 1:56 am

Lesson learned during last recession: never provide any work without having secured the money from the client. When even big companies can go bankrupt, why should small start-ups be safe?

Alternatively: join FICPI, and work only with FICPI members. Among us, we personally guarantee our costs incurred.

 

Quote from angrymama77 on December 31, 2019, 1:57 am

Thank you Martin, we have already learned the lesson, it is the first time that occurs in so many years of profession as IP agents, however, the patent will be abandoned for not receive the funds in the legal deadline to pay annuities and substantive examination, since without the necessary funds we cannot continue with the national PCT phase and the mandate granted by the owner of said patent application. We will take your suggestion into account, and also we are now requiring an initial advance of 50% for initial works commissioned by new colleagues. Happy New Year!

Quote from Martin Schweiger on December 31, 2019, 1:59 am

why 50% and not 100%? By collecting 100% you make it also easier for the foreign associates to collect their own fees at the same time.

Quote from angrymama77 on December 31, 2019, 2:02 am

It is true Martin, you are right we will adopt this practice of request the 100% in advance thank you

@barbapappa: We say it directly and in simple words, the lack of courtesy is from the ABC LLP and Mathew XYZ in hire a foreign IP colleague and when the patent holder client does not pay, either, ABC LLP doesn’t pay to the colleague hired, being that we were directly hired by this Canadian office and not by it’s client. Anyway, we understand your position and we closed this post so as not to bother anyone and not distort the activity of this group